One is a vibe coded eye sore where you get a dick toaster the moment you visit the page and has nonsensical documentation. The other is built by Microsoft.
teh_klev 15 minutes ago [-]
There's an episode of "Scott and Mark Learn" where Mark Russinovich (the creator of the original Process Explorer and other SysInternals tools) talks about how he created Process Explorer for MacOS with Scott Hanselman:
I made this mostly because I wanted something to signal to me that the CPU is running wild. With no fan, I often discover this a bit late, so I wanted just a very subtle indicator in the menu bar. I also added a UI in the browser which shows you some details, though nothing near the level of Process Explorer.
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jherskovic 2 hours ago [-]
Installed it. Pretty straight port UI-wise, it seems like it would be very useful. It doesn’t look ‘Mac’ at all, but for developer tooling that gets a pass from me.
I couldn’t see details for some processes, which was reasonable since I wasn’t running as root. I installed the privileged helper that came with the process… and now the process tree is empty.
Maybe it needs a little more time in the oven?
gwbas1c 20 minutes ago [-]
> It doesn’t look ‘Mac’ at all
It's a port from the Windows version, which is exceptionally popular. On Windows, I haven't opened up Task Manager in years. (And I plan to install this the next time I use my Mac.)
kburman 2 hours ago [-]
I've been working on something similar for Linux, in Rust with egui. It reads from /proc, cgroups, systemd over D-Bus and the netlink proc connector, so it also catches processes that start and exit between refreshes. It runs without root, and anything it can't read just shows "—".
I'd love to have a processexp for Linux! There's just nothing quite like it out there :-/
mannycalavera42 1 hours ago [-]
- sort by CPU seems not working
- clicking on the Processes column is not switching between tree view and flatview
Topfi 1 hours ago [-]
Might actually start using that, had a few processes on macOS 27 get into infinite loops and causing massive load, especially Safari PIDs. Being able to kill full trees, see children and look at the resources taken, might be useful. Shame that Activity Monitor is so bare in features and even takes a surprising amount of time to load.
On a related note, macOS 27 is an extremely buggy, unpredictable mess and you should feel annoyed when using it. Amazing how they can have such great hardware, ham strung by poor software QA and doubly so since this has been an issue on every Mac I have ever used going back to 2009. macOS occasionally gets a bug squashing pass, but just as fast as we get a Snow Leopard, an unstable Lion follows. Also, hotspot and WiFi generally are still utterly unreliable.
overallduka 2 hours ago [-]
Microsoft not happy in being ugly itself, now exports ugliness to Mac OS.
panzagl 53 minutes ago [-]
If you ever used the abomination that was iTunes for Windows, you would say this is retaliation that is long overdue.
santoshalper 8 minutes ago [-]
Not glassy enough for ya?
diegolas 26 minutes ago [-]
brah come on, Mac OS has that liquid glass crap, get real
vondur 2 hours ago [-]
This looks like a port of the process explorer from the Sysinternals suite of tools that people like under windows. I think I also saw something similar to this from Dave Plummer ex Microsoft Dev. at tmog.org.
zamadatix 50 minutes ago [-]
Seems like a safe bet that's what it is since "Sysinternals Process Explorer for Mac" is the opening title of the README :D.
Certain things like Sysinternals tools outside of their native platforms is somethnig I hope to see more of. E.g. I had a SumatraPDF and 7z GUI clone on Linux for a while just because I liked it more than the Linux PDF readers (now I have a home grown app which handles more formats). It looks like this one could use a bit more time in the oven though.
flowrange 18 minutes ago [-]
Well, if you look at the commit history, the first ones are authored by Mark Russinovich himself.
WhereIsTheTruth 2 hours ago [-]
This is the first time i witness a ugly mac app
dinkblam 2 hours ago [-]
how was it even possible to get such an ugly toolbar with Swift?
Scharkenberg 1 hours ago [-]
It's obviously a straight port without much UI/UX optimization at the moment. I'm still fascinated that the port was possible at all.
The more important question is: Does it work well yet?
llimllib 1 hours ago [-]
> Does it work well yet?
no, definitely not
Cockbrand 2 hours ago [-]
I have to admit that I was intrigued at first... until I saw the UI. Too bad, but maybe they'll find more Mac-like icons at some point.
hparadiz 54 minutes ago [-]
Been working on this for Linux for the past 10 months. Inspired by procexp but better. I even have it working remotely over an SSH socket.
Man, Microsoft just has no idea how to make decent UIs, huh
tonymet 1 hours ago [-]
Process Explorer offers 1000x the observability , including sockets, file handles, libs, syscalls , threads, cpu state -- nearly every resource in use. It's a tremendous tool .
Don't overlook it just because of your backwards bias against the vendor. It wasn't originally developed by MS anyway -- Sysinternals were consultants that got acquired by MS.
Something you should aspire to.
rekabis 17 hours ago [-]
This looks to be still in deep alpha.
It initially listed a lot of processes, but failed to display anything in the three main columns (CPU, footprint, memory), and nothing at all in the details at the bottom.
Then, when the privileged helper was installed and approved through Login Items, nothing came up ever again. All panels of the window are now blank, even after a full restart of the app.
Edit: I did not build from source, I used the downloabable DMG from the release assets.
java-man 2 hours ago [-]
Probably phones the mothership every minute and continuously requests an update. /s
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I made this mostly because I wanted something to signal to me that the CPU is running wild. With no fan, I often discover this a bit late, so I wanted just a very subtle indicator in the menu bar. I also added a UI in the browser which shows you some details, though nothing near the level of Process Explorer.
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I couldn’t see details for some processes, which was reasonable since I wasn’t running as root. I installed the privileged helper that came with the process… and now the process tree is empty.
Maybe it needs a little more time in the oven?
It's a port from the Windows version, which is exceptionally popular. On Windows, I haven't opened up Task Manager in years. (And I plan to install this the next time I use my Mac.)
Check screenshot here - https://postimg.cc/gallery/CMczmdh/ceda7197
On a related note, macOS 27 is an extremely buggy, unpredictable mess and you should feel annoyed when using it. Amazing how they can have such great hardware, ham strung by poor software QA and doubly so since this has been an issue on every Mac I have ever used going back to 2009. macOS occasionally gets a bug squashing pass, but just as fast as we get a Snow Leopard, an unstable Lion follows. Also, hotspot and WiFi generally are still utterly unreliable.
Certain things like Sysinternals tools outside of their native platforms is somethnig I hope to see more of. E.g. I had a SumatraPDF and 7z GUI clone on Linux for a while just because I liked it more than the Linux PDF readers (now I have a home grown app which handles more formats). It looks like this one could use a bit more time in the oven though.
The more important question is: Does it work well yet?
no, definitely not
https://evemon.technex.us/
https://github.com/hparadiz/evemon
Don't overlook it just because of your backwards bias against the vendor. It wasn't originally developed by MS anyway -- Sysinternals were consultants that got acquired by MS.
Something you should aspire to.
It initially listed a lot of processes, but failed to display anything in the three main columns (CPU, footprint, memory), and nothing at all in the details at the bottom.
Then, when the privileged helper was installed and approved through Login Items, nothing came up ever again. All panels of the window are now blank, even after a full restart of the app.
Edit: I did not build from source, I used the downloabable DMG from the release assets.