The Hurl file format seems good, any new FOSS replacements should probably build on top
zabij 2 hours ago [-]
- I got sick of all those electron-based applications
- I created a JavaFx-based workbench
Oh boi
asdfsa32 2 hours ago [-]
Modern JavaFX isn't your grandparents JavaFX, in fact, modern Java isn't your grandpa's Java.
thunfischtoast 2 hours ago [-]
So I'm my own grandpa? Whats sorcery is this?
asdfsa32 5 minutes ago [-]
Yes, you're a dinosaur now, I am afraid. Kids born in 2000 are 26 year old.
1 hours ago [-]
splittydev 4 minutes ago [-]
When I saw the UI, my first thought was "is that written in Java"? And indeed, it is. Kinda funny that it's so easy to spot that language based on its horrible default UI skins alone.
biinjo 37 minutes ago [-]
We are in an age where it’s easier to vibe code your own alternative than to do a quick internet search to check if an alternative already exists.
nilamo 17 minutes ago [-]
Magnificent. One step closer to self sufficient community ships drifting through the system, meeting up with other ships once a month or less.
bleuarff 27 minutes ago [-]
What a wonderful usage of resources.
gosen 2 hours ago [-]
The UI looks a bit outdated, it gives me vibes of some old software from 2000s somehow (probably because of the Java).
And it would be really helpful to clearly state benefits of using Milkman instead of Postman right on the home page (e.g. performance benchmarks, UX, extendability, etc.). I see that it has some users and 1.3k stars so there're definitely some cool things in Milkman, probably you could just present them better
dkdbejwi383 1 hours ago [-]
Both the application UI and website are giving open source option from 2008
kjmr 2 hours ago [-]
It looks like a windows app running on macOS.
upmostly 2 hours ago [-]
Are API testing UIs really relevant anymore? I haven't manually tested an API for almost two years, and my APIs are SO much better. This kind of GUI is going to die over the next 5 years.
Postman should be seriously worried.
Mashimo 1 hours ago [-]
> Are API testing UIs really relevant anymore?
We have a postman collection mainly for testers to manually verify certain aspect of a otherwise fairly unit and end-to-end test covered API.
mkesper 52 minutes ago [-]
Export to curl?
Mashimo 24 minutes ago [-]
They are testers, not devs. They don't know how to use command line, or edit environment variables.
rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 2 hours ago [-]
I'm thinking the same thing, I haven't have a need for a tool like Postman in a long time, prompting is enough at this point. I wonder what features others use from Postman that an agent can't do quickly.
ihavesomeexampl 1 hours ago [-]
Quickly eye-balling onprem responses, skipping over UIs and just eyeballing data in general is really useful. Curl can do it but with a couple headers it becomes messy, also RPCs, websockets, etc. It’s just convenient to have a single place where you can eyeball all comms.
vr46 2 hours ago [-]
You're not wrong - I bought a Bruno "Golden Edition" for $9 two years ago pre-release... and... I just don't use it. I'm not even sure why I keep it around, at 524.5 MB
...and... it's gone
upmostly 1 hours ago [-]
That's an interesting point. I wonder if over the next X years consumers will free up ALOT of disk space by just using agents and not needing to download and install desktop software.
Full disclosure, I'm building a desktop app called DB Pro [1] which is a modern desktop database client.
We're still doing well, and selling a lot, but we're having to think about what the next 2/3/4/5 years look like...
I switched to Yaak, initially compiled it myself but now paying for it. I've not had any issues with it, does what I need and keeps out of the way. Simple yaml files in Git is also nice. I would recommend giving it a spin. I think there is a trial, and you can build it yourself, with a bit of configuring.
kind_of_serious 1 hours ago [-]
I would stay off Insomnia. A few versions ago, they practically took my local configuration ransom so they could force me to create a cloud account. Bruno is (still) not there, but the maintainers are slowly heading that way.
asdfsa32 2 hours ago [-]
Insomnia has been around for a while but just like this post from a new account, there is a lot of push for bruno, which is usually a redflag. Never trust things that are "preached" for free.
prmoustache 2 hours ago [-]
what is wrong with curl and httpie (I mean the open source cli one, no idea what the desktop one does)?
hoherd 39 minutes ago [-]
I know this is tongue-in-cheek, but every time somebody mentions Postman or Bruno, I think of https://justuse.org/curl because so much of is is true.
hector84 2 hours ago [-]
if you use VS Code, there are a lot of alternatives:
I think Insomnia and Bruno are both non-native JS apps, I think the moat here is that "this" is not "that".
shaaaade 55 minutes ago [-]
I wish the milkman would deliver my milk... In the morning...
fbnlsr 54 minutes ago [-]
You have so many machines Richard
herpderperator 2 hours ago [-]
The author appears to be suggesting that a key difference between Bruno and Insomnia is that Milkman not written in JavaScript/Electron, but rather JavaFx (i.e., Java) and thus is faster.
manveerc 2 hours ago [-]
What’s next garbageman?
Jokes aside, why is it better?
aorth 2 hours ago [-]
I think that it was posted in regards to the recent news, see: Postman silently auto-installs AI plugins and attempts to share all API data.
1. Very similar UX to postman (just minus the bullshit), so a very easy transition.
2. It's FOSS*
3. Most importantly of all, it has a cute dog logo.
* oof, just saw this on another comment: https://royathan.com/blog/the-api-client-hunt/
Oh boi
Postman should be seriously worried.
We have a postman collection mainly for testers to manually verify certain aspect of a otherwise fairly unit and end-to-end test covered API.
...and... it's gone
Full disclosure, I'm building a desktop app called DB Pro [1] which is a modern desktop database client.
We're still doing well, and selling a lot, but we're having to think about what the next 2/3/4/5 years look like...
[1] https://dbpro.app
Trading bits you own for rented redundant compute to recreate same seems... suboptimal?
How much power should we burn on everyone's agent recreating curl?*
* yes, agents have tools, but what is and isn't an agent tool is a gray area. "Desktop software" could be an agent tool with a human UI.
Why all software needs to constantly evolve and grow with features? This is how you end up with what Postman has become.
https://github.com/postmanlabs/postman-app-support/issues/14... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50354960
Went with Insomnia instead (which IIRC also wants an account now?) and now just some text-mode VSCode http client.
[0]: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=humao.re... - rest client storing config locally
[1]: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Christia...
[2]: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=prawel.r... - same as [0], but with GUI
[3]: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=slverma....
etc.
Jokes aside, why is it better?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50354960