Torrents should really be the preferred method for distributing AI model weights. Why rely on a single point of failure like Hugging Face? BitTorrent was made for exactly this.
CodesInChaos 20 minutes ago [-]
In my experience public torrents often die as they grow older. It doesn't help that BitTorrent V1 makes long term seeding annoying, and BitTorrent V2 is almost never used.
zenoprax 2 minutes ago [-]
You only need one person/organization to commit to seeding. The majority of people do not want to seed at all without some sort of incentive.
If this site represents a coordinated datahoarding effort then there will be at least a few people who will seed indefinitely.
monsieurbanana 6 minutes ago [-]
I never understood this, is there anything that makes it difficult for the original uploader, the one that supposedly offers the file directly, to offer a torrent instead for the same amount of time?
As far as perennity is concerned it seems strictly better.
cube00 2 minutes ago [-]
If they're no longer using that model they may not be willing to continue using their storage for it.
TeMPOraL 28 minutes ago [-]
Yeah, I thought they were used for this already. Surprised this is news, but also relieved.
mococa 20 minutes ago [-]
Steam & Blizzard (probably others) used to delivery games through torrent protocol in the past, before CDNs became cheaper.
When StarCraft 2 was lauched, the installer (before Battle.net installer crapware) had a complete graphical visualization of seeders & leechers.
I've worked at trading firms where the "reference data master" file is usually a big json or equivalent.
To get the file out to 100s or 1000s of machine they would often use private bittorent to distribute the file out.
mococa 14 minutes ago [-]
Same here. Inspired by both, I used to delivery videos over torrent to in door machines since at that time, there's no CDNs (or it was difficult to get one).
skeledrew 32 minutes ago [-]
Arguably this should've been a thing since day 1 (and probably would've helped to prevent the buyout), but better late than never.
RobotToaster 27 minutes ago [-]
Hugging face seemed like buyout bait from day one.
Avicebron 24 minutes ago [-]
Which makes it more surprising that something like this didn't exist. I'm relieved it does though.
reilly3000 15 minutes ago [-]
I’ve been wondering when this will come. The days are numbered for abliterated models to be published on HF I think. Why wouldn’t the government want a central control there?
kevinsimper 41 minutes ago [-]
That is pretty smart, torrent should have been used for more things, and this is a perfect usecase!
grommz 13 minutes ago [-]
If I search for 'uncensored' there are no torrents available. Uncensored models should be top priority, especially now that Nvidia owns HuggingFace and will enshittify the platform in accordance with upcoming US laws.
sneurlax 10 minutes ago [-]
There are such results on huggingface tho. Also search for the keywords “abliteration” and “heretic”. Heretic is a tool used to abliterate, that is decensor, models
behole 3 minutes ago [-]
That was my my first search too. I know they are still listed on HF but every time I try and use one, the links are dead or the size is beyond my scope. Was hoping for a fresh batch. Ill check back.
casper14 24 minutes ago [-]
Honestly, models are torrents will end any effort from the big AI labs to stop open models. No way to prevent weights from being shared, just like mobies. Genie is out of the bottle
yieldcrv 33 minutes ago [-]
great initiative, it's really weird seeing efficiencies get rediscovered in the LLM audience, because these efficiencies aren't even what I would consider to be old
but I guess they are
bananaflag 20 minutes ago [-]
Now I want GPT-4.5
nntlol 34 minutes ago [-]
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If this site represents a coordinated datahoarding effort then there will be at least a few people who will seed indefinitely.
As far as perennity is concerned it seems strictly better.
When StarCraft 2 was lauched, the installer (before Battle.net installer crapware) had a complete graphical visualization of seeders & leechers.
Reference: https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Blizzard_Downloader
To get the file out to 100s or 1000s of machine they would often use private bittorent to distribute the file out.
but I guess they are