How come I didn't know that everyone else was cheating in college? Here I was learning the content like a sucker and then being useful in my job after graduation.
vasco 3 minutes ago [-]
"Man drums publicity up for his fake essay business for people that are too lazy to even use AI"
monster_truck 16 minutes ago [-]
Never went to college, but I made pretty good coin writing papers for friends who did.
It's always been my understanding that virtually everyone cheats (doctors/non-computer engineers aside)
glenstein 2 minutes ago [-]
>It's always been my understanding that virtually everyone cheats
I'm sure it's prevalent in absolute numbers but I didn't and the vast majority of people I know in college didn't. I think it exists in pockets and specific environments but, it's like watching too many mafia movies and thinking every laundromat is a front.
VladVladikoff 12 minutes ago [-]
Don’t really understand how people even could cheat. In most of my classes the majority of the mark was in class paper midterm and paper final. Cheating on the take home assignments would only make you fail the midterm and final even harder.
jjice 8 minutes ago [-]
Definitely the case in classes like that. Also a really obvious sign if you ace homeworks and get a 40% on an exam.
In my CS program, I ended up having at least half the grade be from projects and labs that I watched so many people cheat on. I'll even consider being the dead-weight in a group a form a cheating, but maybe that's too far.
Those same folks really struggled during interviews in their last semester (this was during a very friendly job market). I imagine that the majority of them are also dead weight on their teams these days.
It's a shame. You're cheating yourself of your own education, which can be quite expensive here in the US.
bananaflag 9 minutes ago [-]
Have you heard of cheat sheets? Or looking at your neighbor during exam? Passing pieces of paper?
sampullman 2 minutes ago [-]
Many of my tests after a certain point were open book, or at least explicitly allowed a cheat sheet.
It wasn't going to help you if you didn't know the material, though writing the cheat sheet in the first place is a pretty good form of studying.
jimbo808 8 minutes ago [-]
Graduated with highest honors from a top engineering school and never once considered cheating
dmazzoni 7 minutes ago [-]
No, most people don't cheat. The world would fall apart if they did.
In a lot of occupations the skills you learn in college are real and meaningful. If you don't have the skills, you can't do the job. You can't fake it 'till you make it if it's painfully obvious to your coworkers that you don't understand basic concepts.
OroPla 5 minutes ago [-]
> In a lot of occupations the skills you learn in college are real and meaningful
Such as? Medicine and STEM aren't one of them as far as I know.
watwut 9 minutes ago [-]
> 's always been my understanding that virtually everyone cheats
Not true. The "have someone else writing my work" is rather massive level of cheating and not at all a routine thing everyone does.
mc32 10 minutes ago [-]
In my experience the biggest cheaters were foreign exchange students who saw the six month to year stateside studies as a mere opportunity to have fun and pretend to study.
Animats 16 minutes ago [-]
Amazon gave up on Mechanical Turk recently, too.[1]
If everything you do for money goes in and out over a wire, you're fucked.
So the unethical helping of unethical students is being subverted by unethical language models… What a world!
I guess I should not be surprised by people being sympathetic to this “business model.”
SoftTalker 31 minutes ago [-]
There will always be unethical students who cheat. At least the Kenyans were making a living from it. Now that's gone, and the money goes into the pockets of some of the wealthiest people on the planet.
atleastoptimal 27 minutes ago [-]
Would it be more ethical to donate GPUs to Kenyans who can then host their own Kimi instances and then resell the tokens at a higher price?
mc32 23 minutes ago [-]
So if I were an unethical hacker who hires Ukrainians to develop an APT for me and they know what I’m using it for, they are in the clear ethically because they’re using it to feed their children and arm themselves against russkies?
SoftTalker 18 minutes ago [-]
Maybe not "in the clear" but somewhat more forgivable than Anthropic doing it.
It's the old parable of whether it's unethical to steal a loaf of bread to feed your children.
rwmj 8 minutes ago [-]
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It's always been my understanding that virtually everyone cheats (doctors/non-computer engineers aside)
I'm sure it's prevalent in absolute numbers but I didn't and the vast majority of people I know in college didn't. I think it exists in pockets and specific environments but, it's like watching too many mafia movies and thinking every laundromat is a front.
In my CS program, I ended up having at least half the grade be from projects and labs that I watched so many people cheat on. I'll even consider being the dead-weight in a group a form a cheating, but maybe that's too far.
Those same folks really struggled during interviews in their last semester (this was during a very friendly job market). I imagine that the majority of them are also dead weight on their teams these days.
It's a shame. You're cheating yourself of your own education, which can be quite expensive here in the US.
It wasn't going to help you if you didn't know the material, though writing the cheat sheet in the first place is a pretty good form of studying.
In a lot of occupations the skills you learn in college are real and meaningful. If you don't have the skills, you can't do the job. You can't fake it 'till you make it if it's painfully obvious to your coworkers that you don't understand basic concepts.
Such as? Medicine and STEM aren't one of them as far as I know.
Not true. The "have someone else writing my work" is rather massive level of cheating and not at all a routine thing everyone does.
If everything you do for money goes in and out over a wire, you're fucked.
[1] https://www.mturk.com/help
I guess I should not be surprised by people being sympathetic to this “business model.”
It's the old parable of whether it's unethical to steal a loaf of bread to feed your children.