> In closing arguments, prosecutor Binu Palal told jurors to take Davis at his word and find him guilty.
> For years, he argued, Davis had been telling people "that he is responsible for Tupac Shakur's murder" through documentaries, his memoir, podcasts and a police interview.
> Throughout the trial, Davis' defence team tried to persuade jurors that his comments were fiction - bravado and exaggeration intended to sell books and make money.
I feel like there's a song about this... [1]
Gangsters telling on themselves can be almost funny from a distance, but that violence and lack of justice is real. It's hard not to feel sick to your stomach when you see a case like the Nathan Leigh shooting, where a Toronto gangster did broad daylight execution (attempted) on camera, beat the case, and has been rapping about the crime for years later [2].
People are easily disgusted by violent acts and yet they often only harm a single individual directly and few indirectly.
People that commit fraud are more welcoming to the public but they are the ones that harm the most people.
Example: Brett Farve, a millionaire, is still likable while at the same time he stole from a welfare system that was designed to help the poorest in the state of Mississippi. He is directly responsible for harm enumerable number of people.
I am more disgusted by the fraudsters of the world than people like Luigi Mangione. I wish more people would realize that corrupt wealthy individuals cause the most harm against humanity than those that commit singular violent acts.
ailun 2 hours ago [-]
Violence ripples out. It’s never just one person. Living in a violent society has huge costs on all of us.
wredcoll 1 hours ago [-]
You're right, but that doesn't discount the point about fraud, especially the "mega"fraudsters like favre and trump and friends.
It's not just the literal stealing, it is, as you point out, the ripple effects of destroying trust in society/government/etc.
rexpop 1 hours ago [-]
"Civil" violence also ripples out.
stickfigure 53 minutes ago [-]
This is literal whattaboutism. We can be disgusted by violent acts and fraud. This post reads like you're trying to excuse the violece.
amacneil 1 hours ago [-]
Wildest part about this whole story is Ben Horowitz of A16z's role:
Assuming this story is true, is it normal that some rich guy can just ask to see police documents over dinner without any FOIA request or anything?
arjie 58 minutes ago [-]
He's pretty close to that particular police chief of staff or whatever he was. So this is probably just one of those things where if you have connections, then sometimes you take someone on vacation or fly them private and it turns out they give you some documents, rule in your favour in a case, pardon you.
edit: just watched the youtube video in full, and it isn't an admission. It's just discussing the shooting in general, and he puts blame on others.
cocacola1 2 hours ago [-]
Wild. Never expected this. Guess it wasn’t Suge, which is the biggest surprise.
I wonder if they’ll find Biggie’s killer next.
ChrisArchitect 2 hours ago [-]
Almost 30 years to the day (Sept 7, 1996), wild indeed.
bigmattystyles 2 hours ago [-]
I mean Suge was driving the car and Tupac in the passenger seat. Seems risky.
YouGuysAreBorin 2 hours ago [-]
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arjie 1 hours ago [-]
30 years later, and he's still got appeals to go? Fascinating. Not familiar with these processes, but when he's finally away to prison how old will he be? He's in his sixties now.
ganjatech 2 hours ago [-]
Rap snitches, telling all their business
Sit in the court and be their own star witness
"Do you see the perpetrator?" "Yeah, I'm right here"
Fuck around, get the whole label sent up for years
> In closing arguments, prosecutor Binu Palal told jurors to take Davis at his word and find him guilty.
> For years, he argued, Davis had been telling people "that he is responsible for Tupac Shakur's murder" through documentaries, his memoir, podcasts and a police interview.
Is it just me or does it seem like they should have caught this guy sooner?
lenerdenator 2 hours ago [-]
Having a guy write lyrics about a killing is one thing.
Having enough evidence to take to a grand jury, get an indictment, and convince a petit jury beyond a reasonable doubt, and survive appeals is another.
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> For years, he argued, Davis had been telling people "that he is responsible for Tupac Shakur's murder" through documentaries, his memoir, podcasts and a police interview.
> Throughout the trial, Davis' defence team tried to persuade jurors that his comments were fiction - bravado and exaggeration intended to sell books and make money.
I feel like there's a song about this... [1]
Gangsters telling on themselves can be almost funny from a distance, but that violence and lack of justice is real. It's hard not to feel sick to your stomach when you see a case like the Nathan Leigh shooting, where a Toronto gangster did broad daylight execution (attempted) on camera, beat the case, and has been rapping about the crime for years later [2].
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KIhEbellKI
2. https://youtu.be/TGmDLJ5wp4I?t=310
People that commit fraud are more welcoming to the public but they are the ones that harm the most people.
Example: Brett Farve, a millionaire, is still likable while at the same time he stole from a welfare system that was designed to help the poorest in the state of Mississippi. He is directly responsible for harm enumerable number of people.
I am more disgusted by the fraudsters of the world than people like Luigi Mangione. I wish more people would realize that corrupt wealthy individuals cause the most harm against humanity than those that commit singular violent acts.
It's not just the literal stealing, it is, as you point out, the ripple effects of destroying trust in society/government/etc.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cUOTL8meN5I
See https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/08/ben-horowitzs-cozy-relatio...
Like GunRack from K&P https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EXPPSQhUVss
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3uoB8zvLdI
edit: just watched the youtube video in full, and it isn't an admission. It's just discussing the shooting in general, and he puts blame on others.
I wonder if they’ll find Biggie’s killer next.
Sit in the court and be their own star witness
"Do you see the perpetrator?" "Yeah, I'm right here"
Fuck around, get the whole label sent up for years
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gQtKJbptcns
> For years, he argued, Davis had been telling people "that he is responsible for Tupac Shakur's murder" through documentaries, his memoir, podcasts and a police interview.
He'd fit quite well in Silicon Valley.
wardriving og
Having enough evidence to take to a grand jury, get an indictment, and convince a petit jury beyond a reasonable doubt, and survive appeals is another.