I'm skeptical of this deal. Cursor led the way on agentic coding, but Claude Code and Codex have replaced it. [I use Codex for everything now.]
Still, I'm hearing that Grok 4.6 is almost as good at coding as Codex, but lots cheaper. [My network is also down on Claude--Opus 5 seems like a regression.]
The optimistic scenario would be Grok being a fast-follower with cheaper rates, and staying ahead of open source models. If they can pull that off, and convince enough developers, then maybe they've got a chance.
But $60B seems insane to me. What's Cursor's market share relative to Codex and Claude Code? If it's not meaningful, then it's $60B for an acquihire.
_menelaus 2 minutes ago [-]
Its 60B for a huge amount of RL coding data to become competitive in the space.
11 minutes ago [-]
hardwaregeek 10 minutes ago [-]
I feel like people aren’t updating to the possibility that a significant portion of software development could be under the purview of SpaceX. Whether it’s developer Twitter, Cursor’s planned GitHub competitor, or Cursor/Grok, that’s a lot of the developer mindshare. Granted, there’s a lot of competition in all of these spaces except for maybe Twitter, so it might not happen. But there’s a chance! And that possibility is fairly concerning.
imagent 2 hours ago [-]
Keep in mind while this is the date they officially became part of SpaceX, they have already been collaborating on building models together. So don't expect a significant bump in performance on new Grok models due to the additional data from Cursor--that bump already happened with Grok 4.5[1] and now 4.6.
Elon is still all in on replacing programmers. He listens to always the same stupid booster accounts (XFreeze etc.).
Good that there is now an administration that creates jobs, does not engage in foreign wars and has ended the Ukraine war in 24 hours.
james_pm 4 minutes ago [-]
[delayed]
cedws 1 hours ago [-]
Isn't it SpaceXAI now? I lost track.
r14c 1 hours ago [-]
X, the everything app, formerly known as Twitter, now SpaceXAI XCursor X.
pennomi 8 minutes ago [-]
Time to rebrand to CurXor?
steveBK123 35 minutes ago [-]
AI by xAI, a SpaceX subsidiary fka as Twitter, special collab with Cursor
echelon 51 minutes ago [-]
That's like a popular 2000's era username.
xXxSpaceXAixX
InsideOutSanta 42 minutes ago [-]
xXxSpaceXAIxX: Return of Xander Cage
Apocryphon 32 minutes ago [-]
Musk pulls a Howard Hughes and goes into Hollywood producing just to bring back that franchise, just just for the letter X.
goolz 32 minutes ago [-]
Very on-brand for a Halo 2 lobby circa 2005.
ubercore 43 minutes ago [-]
Don't give him any ideas.
Apocryphon 58 minutes ago [-]
SpaceX, the everything company
stronglikedan 42 minutes ago [-]
SpaceXtra
SketchySeaBeast 39 minutes ago [-]
How long until he names a company "E" just so he can giggle about the name?
AnEro 35 minutes ago [-]
Subscription is gone the second I feel like their not running the inference at a loss
deburo 21 minutes ago [-]
I'm hoping Cursor becomes the third biggest (American) AI model company, replacing Google. Elon works best with top talent, and I think Cursor most kept its team together; were there any big departure from there recently?
dcrazy 18 minutes ago [-]
What proprietary models does Cursor offer? Do they have any of the infrastructure to develop, train, and refine a frontier model?
minraws 15 minutes ago [-]
Now they do have SpaceX's GPUs and Grok models...
I mean I get that we can all dislike this move but it might the best way to get into the race to become one of the top labs. Ofc Grok 4.6 is not there yet, I have seen people claim it's quite good and it is but it's a marginal improvement over the mid tier models from the top 2.
And it's certainly worse than the recent GLM 5.3 (especially once we get the weights for it).
hparadiz 4 minutes ago [-]
All the models are good enough for almost all normal tech job work. If all you are doing is building a react app there's functionally no difference. You'd only want a frontier model to work on something extra complex but even that will be baked into the basic models within six months.
stackghost 18 minutes ago [-]
Conversely, I'm hoping all Elon's companies go bankrupt. Elon works best with top talent because he is nothing but a grifter good at taking credit for the hard work of others (see: Tesla), and failing upwards.
Concentrating so much wealth in one unstable Nazi[0] like Elon is objectively bad for society.
Hopefully they can unify the harnesses now. Weird how there's both grok build and cursor-agent at the same time.
ravenstine 1 hours ago [-]
I get it and yet I don't. On one hand, my experience with Cursor (albeit limited) tells me that it's a perfect fit with Elon's other ventures. Then again, I don't see how there's anything so special about it that SpaceXAI would want to acquire it for either the software itself or the talent behind it. It seems more likely that acquiring Cursor is a way to get more users for Grok, seeing as how it still has a very small share of the market.
melodyogonna 8 minutes ago [-]
Grok has started competing with frontier models on coding thanks to Cursor's data, with SpaceX's massive compute they can undercut competition on price, which makes the offering real appealing.
I've now switched to Grok 4.6, I was previously using Opus 4.8 but Grok is good enough now, and way cheaper which is the important part.
freedomben 48 minutes ago [-]
I've never seen the appeal of cursor either, but then I'm a decades-long vim (now neovim) guy and don't use IDEs in general. But for me claude/codex TUIs are a great way to fit agents into my workflow.
My suspicion is that it's a way to break into more developer workflows for Grok, even if the market share is relatively small. I've never used grok and don't plan to at this point, but I have highly respected friends who say it is pretty damn good, and some of them even started using Cursor because of this pairing, so anecdatally at least it does seem to be working.
stronglikedan 38 minutes ago [-]
So they can play the game that the other big AI companies are playing, where they invest in one another to make each one look bigger on the books, even though it's all the same money, likely.
modeless 60 minutes ago [-]
The data is special. Data of programmers using coding agents in the real world is invaluable for AI training. And their customer base is useful to deploy new models into.
48 minutes ago [-]
andsoitis 34 minutes ago [-]
Congrats to everyone at Cursor!
vegancap 17 minutes ago [-]
Cooool, won't be using that again
sidcool 2 hours ago [-]
They were not joking
mock-possum 1 hours ago [-]
Shame.
stronglikedan 42 minutes ago [-]
Why? The product isn't likely to change
maximilianburke 17 minutes ago [-]
But the people collecting the money have.
midnitewarrior 1 hours ago [-]
...and I won't be revisiting Cursor again.
stronglikedan 41 minutes ago [-]
Why not? The product isn't likely to change
sudonem 29 minutes ago [-]
Some people perhaps just don’t want to give money to literal Bond villains. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sajithdilshan 1 hours ago [-]
…and the world kept spinning
thecrumb 5 hours ago [-]
Eeeewww. Grok. Off to look at Zed.
jjtheblunt 47 minutes ago [-]
Zed's very handy, I find, and i'm not saying so because i'm driven to it by aversion to alternatives: it's just very useful.
nxc18 35 minutes ago [-]
Why not just use VS Code which cursor (and antigravity and the one Amazon is pushing) is a fork of? It will be much closer in functionality and has been loaded up with agent features nonstop for the last 18 months.
spottedmarley 5 hours ago [-]
...to the moon?
oniony 2 hours ago [-]
Think the aim is Mars.
tshaddox 1 hours ago [-]
Earlier this year they literally publicized changing their immediate goal from Mars to the Moon.
Ekaros 2 hours ago [-]
Perfect tool for rocket control systems and in general control and life support systems of Mars colonies.
aanet 2 hours ago [-]
Vibe codin' away the colonization of Mars
an0malous 1 hours ago [-]
It’s been enshittified to the Moon now
kykat 1 hours ago [-]
I swear I actually laughed out loud with this, is this a joke?
stronglikedan 40 minutes ago [-]
Companies buy other companies all the time, so I'm not sure why anyone is surprised.
marcosdumay 14 minutes ago [-]
If somebody missed that one news, one can easily get to the conclusion that SpaceX tried to manipulate index funds to buy their shares, and sold into an incredibly high valuation to keep the money. Not to reinvest it into the business.
rvz 1 hours ago [-]
No.
Rendered at 18:02:24 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time) with Vercel.
Still, I'm hearing that Grok 4.6 is almost as good at coding as Codex, but lots cheaper. [My network is also down on Claude--Opus 5 seems like a regression.]
The optimistic scenario would be Grok being a fast-follower with cheaper rates, and staying ahead of open source models. If they can pull that off, and convince enough developers, then maybe they've got a chance.
But $60B seems insane to me. What's Cursor's market share relative to Codex and Claude Code? If it's not meaningful, then it's $60B for an acquihire.
[1] https://cursor.com/blog/grok-4-5
Good that there is now an administration that creates jobs, does not engage in foreign wars and has ended the Ukraine war in 24 hours.
xXxSpaceXAixX
I mean I get that we can all dislike this move but it might the best way to get into the race to become one of the top labs. Ofc Grok 4.6 is not there yet, I have seen people claim it's quite good and it is but it's a marginal improvement over the mid tier models from the top 2.
And it's certainly worse than the recent GLM 5.3 (especially once we get the weights for it).
Concentrating so much wealth in one unstable Nazi[0] like Elon is objectively bad for society.
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2bbb-6Clhs
SpaceX to buy Cursor for $60B
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48553224
I've now switched to Grok 4.6, I was previously using Opus 4.8 but Grok is good enough now, and way cheaper which is the important part.
My suspicion is that it's a way to break into more developer workflows for Grok, even if the market share is relatively small. I've never used grok and don't plan to at this point, but I have highly respected friends who say it is pretty damn good, and some of them even started using Cursor because of this pairing, so anecdatally at least it does seem to be working.