Q: Did you just way over-optimize for a specific CPU and tokenizer? How is it so fast?
No, I way over-optimized for every combination of these! The results are very consistent across CPUs (modern x86 and ARM), and across specific tokenizers.
The major improvements are in optimizing heavily an implementation that usually is outsourced to a Regex engine (pretokenization) using SIMD, minimizing branching and other tricks, as well as heavily optimizing caching of pretoken mappings (if a word has been seen before, look it up its encoded tokens efficiently). Caching is a very hard problem in this domain since the cache grows very quickly, and pretoken distributions are very long-tailed.
Finally, interactions with Python are minimized, and threads have minimal interactions with each other.
sashank_1509 17 minutes ago [-]
This is really cool, great work!
fwip 25 minutes ago [-]
What sort of setups do people have that are bounded by the speed of the tokenizer?
marcelroed 10 minutes ago [-]
Author here! In my case it's mostly pretraining experiments, where you might want to change your data mixture/filtering/processing of training data, and splits are usually done at a token-level instead of a text level. In this case we usually run for days on a huge number of CPUs to finish tokenizing something like DCLM.
From what I can tell it's also useful for inference when considering time-to-first-token (TTFT) as reported by fastokens.[0]
I'm not sure about the proprietary inference engines, but in the open source ones tokenization is done before looking up if a text sequence is present in the KV-cache. If you have a long prefix that's been seen before (say a system prompt), the time for tokenizing that will be a large part of your TTFT. The tokenizer cache should be warmed up in this case, so the throughput for Gigatoken would be significantly higher than reported in the repo.
It can be useful for checking input token usage before sending it to the model, e.g. preventing calls above a given token bound or grouping requests into batches.
It can also be used by the LLMs to provide the input and output token counts on the different APIs, though I'm not sure if this is how llama.cpp or other OpenAI-like APIs calculate the input/output tokens of a request.
charcircuit 11 minutes ago [-]
But are those bounded on the speed of tokenization?
imperio59 1 minutes ago [-]
Pre-training data is pre-tokenized ahead of time before being used to not waste any GPU compute.
A massive speedup like this is a nice efficiency savings on some of these data pipelines for sure.
andersa 14 minutes ago [-]
Wait, since when does it matter whether something being hyper-optimized is useful? The computer going brrrr on an interesting problem is in itself the goal!
fwip 7 minutes ago [-]
That's fair, I just figure there are useful scenarios as well. Apologies if I came off as dismissive!
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Q: Did you just way over-optimize for a specific CPU and tokenizer? How is it so fast? No, I way over-optimized for every combination of these! The results are very consistent across CPUs (modern x86 and ARM), and across specific tokenizers.
The major improvements are in optimizing heavily an implementation that usually is outsourced to a Regex engine (pretokenization) using SIMD, minimizing branching and other tricks, as well as heavily optimizing caching of pretoken mappings (if a word has been seen before, look it up its encoded tokens efficiently). Caching is a very hard problem in this domain since the cache grows very quickly, and pretoken distributions are very long-tailed.
Finally, interactions with Python are minimized, and threads have minimal interactions with each other.
From what I can tell it's also useful for inference when considering time-to-first-token (TTFT) as reported by fastokens.[0]
I'm not sure about the proprietary inference engines, but in the open source ones tokenization is done before looking up if a text sequence is present in the KV-cache. If you have a long prefix that's been seen before (say a system prompt), the time for tokenizing that will be a large part of your TTFT. The tokenizer cache should be warmed up in this case, so the throughput for Gigatoken would be significantly higher than reported in the repo.
[0] https://github.com/crusoecloud/fastokens
It can also be used by the LLMs to provide the input and output token counts on the different APIs, though I'm not sure if this is how llama.cpp or other OpenAI-like APIs calculate the input/output tokens of a request.
A massive speedup like this is a nice efficiency savings on some of these data pipelines for sure.