Having http as an alternative to tftp is a nice win. The range of things that can run an http server is much bigger than tftp
>Additionally, adding the TLS layer brings back the missing integrity and confidentiality guarantees and thus paves the way to move critical boot components out of the trusted network, possibly even to a remote location/Cloud.
Doesn't secure boot already provide this or am I misunderstanding something? I suppose secure boot only provides integrity but not confidentiality although I'm not sure how much confidentiality matters given we're just talking about the kernel here
LooseMarmoset 16 minutes ago [-]
Secure boot is designed to verify software signatures. The UEFI bios might support loading software over https, but it isn't part of secure boot. Secure boot would verify any kernels/etc loaded from https.
noodlesUK 47 minutes ago [-]
To what extent is this possible for actual metal hardware? I'm sure lots of us are running PXE/TFTP systems and HTTP would be a heck of a lot simpler.
nijave 37 minutes ago [-]
There's still the tftp->ipxe->http->??? path. TFTP only needs to serve a 300kb file which can then switch to more robust transport like http for the kernel/OS
You could bypass that by shipping iPXE on USB tho
On metal you also commonly have a BMC so generally that lets you attach an ISO or other storage you can boot from to bypass UEFI primitive PXE. This is probably the biggest one--use BMC functionality instead of UEFI PXE
At home, I use JetKVM or GL.iNet Comet network KVM to bootstrap commodity hardware without BMC (by attaching an ISO). Probably could make a cheap commodity device with Raspberry Pi Zero that does that same thing at lower cost although at that point you're back to "just use USB storage"
>Additionally, adding the TLS layer brings back the missing integrity and confidentiality guarantees and thus paves the way to move critical boot components out of the trusted network, possibly even to a remote location/Cloud.
Doesn't secure boot already provide this or am I misunderstanding something? I suppose secure boot only provides integrity but not confidentiality although I'm not sure how much confidentiality matters given we're just talking about the kernel here
You could bypass that by shipping iPXE on USB tho
On metal you also commonly have a BMC so generally that lets you attach an ISO or other storage you can boot from to bypass UEFI primitive PXE. This is probably the biggest one--use BMC functionality instead of UEFI PXE
At home, I use JetKVM or GL.iNet Comet network KVM to bootstrap commodity hardware without BMC (by attaching an ISO). Probably could make a cheap commodity device with Raspberry Pi Zero that does that same thing at lower cost although at that point you're back to "just use USB storage"