And? The point is that it's routed to the same model. Is the middleman's nationality that important, especially when you already accept the existence of a middleman?
stingraycharles 11 minutes ago [-]
In a world where it enables you to tell your place of a work “just get us an account there so we have access to all models under a single billing account”.
In other words, it solves an organizational problem, not a technical one. That’s what the 5.5% is for.
Whether or not you prefer this or OpenRouter or one of the other LLM gateways is another discussion.
alexmercerdev 23 minutes ago [-]
Practically, I think the premium only makes sense if the routing layer gives you something operational: one contract/invoice, EU support/legal process, spend caps, audit logs, maybe provider fallback. If it's just a pass-through to the same US/China model endpoints with +5.5%, I don't see much reason for devs to switch on price or sovereignty grounds.
reneberlin 3 hours ago [-]
This website doesn't even comply with general basic standards for imprint and responsible persons and firms behind it. So if i proxy this misbehaviour to the rest of the whole: european answer-claim ... and the nameservers are on cloudflare. goodbye.
wongarsu 25 minutes ago [-]
Even their legal documents (terms of use, DPA, privacy agreement) just lists them as
Eden AI
France
contact@edenai.co
The terms of use start with the words "Eden AI is a French company" but as far as I can tell there is no registered French company with that name. There is a likely unrelated British company of that name, and a French "Eden AI SAS" that was closed five months ago that helped companies create and execute workshops
Edit: looking more closely, it's the company orginally known as "Datagenius SAS" based in Lyon, France. They changed their name to "Eden AI SAS" in 2022 (or maybe it's an alternative name? I am not too familiar with how this works in France), and their datagenius homepage links to the submitted page. https://www.datagenius.fr/ If anyone wants to send them a letter, the registered address of the company is 142 Rue De Crequi, F-69003 Lyon
That took slightly more work to figure out than I would expect from a website that has the word "transparency" in the headline, but at least they do exist
ascorbic 29 minutes ago [-]
It's not a German website, so it doesn't need an imprint
RadiozRadioz 30 minutes ago [-]
Out of curiosity, what are "general basic standards for imprint and responsible persons and firms behind it" ?
PufPufPuf 25 minutes ago [-]
Identifying the legal entity behind the service. So you know who you're actually doing business with.
stingraycharles 1 hours ago [-]
What I find interesting is that initially, I thought this was some low effort slop project, but apparently it has existed for 4 years already!
_pdp_ 1 hours ago [-]
Such initiatives are very much welcome and I am happy to to start using them. However, my issue is that it appears that many of these models are simply proxied from the specific cloud provider with fees attached which does not bring a lot of value given the 5% surcharge.
Since all frontier models are owned by US companies, I think better alternative is to focus on open source models only that run on EU data centers owned by EU companies. That will be something.
mhitza 1 hours ago [-]
Title is misleading. The page (unless I missed it on a skim) states that it's built in Europe.
"European Alternative" has a different connotation as visible in the other comments.
nubg 34 minutes ago [-]
The European Alternative to Openrouter would be a simple open source proxy, not yet another proprietary service.
databasa 1 hours ago [-]
Let's hope so, although, as others say, it should be more independent from foreign services if it is to be sold as fully EU-based.
muyuu 40 minutes ago [-]
didn't see any claims to being EU-based, just "built in Europe"
poisonborz 25 minutes ago [-]
This is what happens when there is actual political pressure, need from society, and EU making big mission statements - and then there is silence. Random grifters and vibe coders will come up to fill the demand of unsuspecting masses with low quality or scam products with an EU sticker on it. Or even the wolf in sheep costume, like aws.eu
neya 1 hours ago [-]
So, there is 0 differentiation from this and OpenRouter. The only difference is just that it is European in name only, but underlying services are not. And the pricing also isn't any cheaper. So, why would I spend my development hours switching to this than just stay on OpenRouter? Just because it's an "EU" alternative? The webpage doesn't even comply with basic GDPR requirements. Sigh.
mft_ 39 minutes ago [-]
Indeed; a "European" router serving mostly US models is (deliberately?) missing the point.
k__ 18 minutes ago [-]
How come?
You can use it with just European models if you want.
m00dy 60 minutes ago [-]
yeah, why is it on the front page ? I can videcode it in 3 hours or maybe even less.
jasonsb 55 minutes ago [-]
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In other words, it solves an organizational problem, not a technical one. That’s what the 5.5% is for.
Whether or not you prefer this or OpenRouter or one of the other LLM gateways is another discussion.
Edit: looking more closely, it's the company orginally known as "Datagenius SAS" based in Lyon, France. They changed their name to "Eden AI SAS" in 2022 (or maybe it's an alternative name? I am not too familiar with how this works in France), and their datagenius homepage links to the submitted page. https://www.datagenius.fr/ If anyone wants to send them a letter, the registered address of the company is 142 Rue De Crequi, F-69003 Lyon
That took slightly more work to figure out than I would expect from a website that has the word "transparency" in the headline, but at least they do exist
Since all frontier models are owned by US companies, I think better alternative is to focus on open source models only that run on EU data centers owned by EU companies. That will be something.
"European Alternative" has a different connotation as visible in the other comments.
You can use it with just European models if you want.