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Swiss AI Initiative (2023) (swiss-ai.org)
cristoperb 6 hours ago [-]
Apertus is the open source 8b and 70b LLM from swiss-ai. They've published both the base and the instruct sft models. Very cool that projects like this exist.

https://apertvs.ai/pages/documentation/

reconnecting 1 hours ago [-]
andsoitis 4 hours ago [-]
Is it any good?
khalic 1 hours ago [-]
Yes it’s not bad, although it’s not meant to be a chatbot, post training is limited, so it won’t feel as smooth as TOTL of course. The number of supported languages is mind boggling.

Focus was on open data, languages and auditability.

Their loss function is fancy, not sure about the effects

cristoperb 4 hours ago [-]
I haven't tried it for anything myself yet. The paper provides several benchmarks. The emphasis during training was on multi-language support (over 1800 languages are represented in its pre-training data, which is 40% non-English) and non-copyrighted training data... and the benchmarks seem to suffer for it.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.14233

nicolaric 3 hours ago [-]
it's quite bad tbh. i've tried it for some time and i expected much more...
himata4113 7 hours ago [-]
2023, but deadlines less than a month ago? Seems to be been updated continiously so (2023) doesn't really fit here.
dtech 5 hours ago [-]
I propose every Linux post should be tagged (1991) from now on
andsoitis 4 hours ago [-]
Has anything noteworthy come from this initiative? I have not heard of anything yet.
gnabgib 10 hours ago [-]
(2023) Little said at the time (4 points, 1 comment) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38529956
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TMWNN 7 hours ago [-]
Related 2023 discussion (22 comments): <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38523736>
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shlewis 6 hours ago [-]
Why is this not written in German, I'm afraid to ask?
kuerbel 4 hours ago [-]
Why is it not written in French? Or Italian? Or Romansh? Because Switzerland has four official languages and English makes it easier for everyone
ale42 2 hours ago [-]
Not really. It's because the target audience is more academic/scientific rather than the Swiss population at large. In the latter case, it would be in the local languages. The law is relatively clear for this. English is not accepted in Switzerland as a replacement language for the "local" ones, although many people can speak or at least understand some English.
kuerbel 1 hours ago [-]
heavy sigh I'm Swiss. I know. What I meant to say is that German is not the default language in Switzerland.
backscratches 2 hours ago [-]
It's a university in a French speaking region for one.
PetitPrince 4 minutes ago [-]
Not quite: it's a collab between both ETHZ (Zürich, German speaking) and EPFL (Lausanne, French speaking). According to the website, the actual hardware is distributed all over the country (including in the Italian part).
j7ake 4 hours ago [-]
Most researchers in Switzerland are non-Swiss, and many institutes have English as language of business
lynguist 1 hours ago [-]
Staff nationality of Swiss higher education institutions:

- Universities: 55% Swiss, 45% foreign - Universities of applied sciences: 75% Swiss, 25% foreign - Universities of teacher education: 87% Swiss, 13% foreign - Professors: 49% Swiss, 51% foreign - PhDs/scientific collaborators: 30% Swiss, 70% foreign - Professors of ETH Zurich: 31% Swiss, 69% foreign

rrgok 2 hours ago [-]
Why it has to be german?
arh5451 2 hours ago [-]
Because german is hard.
dirasieb 6 hours ago [-]
english is the lingua franca
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dackdel 4 hours ago [-]
because the brits won the language wars.
gib444 1 hours ago [-]
And the other wars ;)
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