The ads on default search partner is a fine compromise - reality is that projects need money, and if this helps them (and makes it less dependant on donations) then great! As long as the ad blocking happens elsewhere, it is fine.
I need to move back to waterfox again...
jameshush 2 hours ago [-]
Had the pleasure of working with Alex while at System1. Great guy. If I remember correctly I got one tiny change merged into Waterfox that's probably since been undone in the years since :-).
keyle 6 hours ago [-]
Interesting I've never heard of waterfox before. Looks interesting!
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mrbluecoat 6 hours ago [-]
I love how "15 Years of Forking" is right next to "There is no Spoon" on the HN homepage right now :D
renewiltord 4 hours ago [-]
Everyone starts out pure but then the lucre calls.
> Waterfox’s approach of allowing text ads on the default search partner page is our own decision for sustainability
"Sustainability" indeed.
chii 3 hours ago [-]
You either die an open source project, or live long enough to see yourself become ad-driven in the name of sustainability.
Firefox has already done so to google, and when a fork is big enough, they certainly will hear the siren's call.
renewiltord 44 minutes ago [-]
You’re right 100% The guy literally sold his browser to an online advertising company and then bought it back. Why do you think startpage is the default? Look up the online advertising company that owns it and then look up who he sold the browser to before taking it back.
sersi 34 minutes ago [-]
I mean first thing I do in any browser is change the search engine so it's not like it affects me in any way. I don't expect opensource projects to never make deals that give them some money, I just want them to be fully transparent when they do. Waterfox is transparent and clearly states who and how they sell their user data to.
kev009 4 hours ago [-]
Did you read the same article as me? The word is singularly used in the context of how do you earn money as a project, i.e. sustain the effort. It's a bit of a leap to imply this is impure unless they made some contract stating the opposite or are doing something dark.
renewiltord 43 minutes ago [-]
Oh yeah, the part where he sold the browser to an online advertising company that just happens to run startpage is purity huh? Damn, Google and Chrome must be saints
You must be one of those guys who reads Philip Morris “articles” on the benefits of smoking and concludes there’s no evidence for harm.
ThrowawayTestr 2 hours ago [-]
Have you ever sent a donation to Alex?
renewiltord 2 hours ago [-]
Why would I donate to someone who is willing to sell my attention?
pedrogpimenta 1 hours ago [-]
Did you do it before they did so?
renewiltord 1 hours ago [-]
Looks like I judged them well in not doing so. I would have been such a sucker. After all, donating to corporations is for bootlickers.
So they’re just shilling their own search product on their own browser. No different from Google and Chrome. Except with some corporate bootlicking from running dog lackeys.
He literally sold it to an online advertising company lol.
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HDBaseT 4 hours ago [-]
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I need to move back to waterfox again...
> Waterfox’s approach of allowing text ads on the default search partner page is our own decision for sustainability
"Sustainability" indeed.
Firefox has already done so to google, and when a fork is big enough, they certainly will hear the siren's call.
You must be one of those guys who reads Philip Morris “articles” on the benefits of smoking and concludes there’s no evidence for harm.
https://www.waterfox.com/blog/waterfox-has-joined-system1/
So they’re just shilling their own search product on their own browser. No different from Google and Chrome. Except with some corporate bootlicking from running dog lackeys.
He literally sold it to an online advertising company lol.