I guess Trump needs to be more like......China?!

Of course, both of these are in the crosshairs for “revision”.

Are you also implying that in the US anyone is free to speak negatively of “dear leader”?

There are a multitude of current examples to the contrary.

Well, based on the current admin and supporters, only part of the US was unique

I mean we are literally putting people in concentration camps right now. Kinda hard to take the moral high ground at the moment. Scientists are fleeing the United States for their safety, just like they did from 1930s Germany.

It is when researchers can't make enough money to eat and live, which is an actual reality in the US right now.

Researchers at top institutions often make less than Uber drivers.

There are other countries where you can live on less and the government isn't dipping their hands into your pockets every 5 seconds.

But capital structures and politicians are still too close to old European companies from the second world war and don't allow venture capital to florish.

It's easier to earn money by winning a fake EU tender and giving back half of the money to a politician than doing something innovative.

Also in the USA you just wait 4 (or 8) years and you have a new president. In many other countries you don't have that luxury.

This illustrates exactly my point. Canada is planning on spending up to CAD$1.7B over 12 years. That is equivalent to USD$100M per year, or 0.3% of the NIH 2026 budget. Maybe if Europe does something similar they can get to 2%!

> The US is also no longer safe

I agree that Trump's regime has made the US a less welcoming place for foreign scientists, and that budget cuts mean less research will be done. What I disagree with is the idea that "brain drain" is a significant threat to US science. We simply have such an incredible oversupply of biomed PhDs that we should welcome the prospect of other countries absorbing the supply.

two election results in the past ten years have apparently failed to teach y'all wholesome folx that many people around you are secretly unwholesome.

That is happening right now, all the time! Especially in the biomed field! Many, many PhDs spend 5-8 years getting their degree and receiving minimal pay, then 4+ years being nomadic postdocs, also making terrible money, only to eventually arrive at the end of the road and realize they have to do something completely different.

It is unsustainable for every professor to train 10 PhDs in their career, because there aren't going to be 10 professorships (or even 3) for those PhDs to fill. Funding has to grow at the same exponential rate as the number of researchers. It did, from roughly 1950s to 1980s, as the university system expanded to accommodate the Boomer generation. It has slowed since, and the PhD to professorship pipeline got longer and leakier. It's doing a tremendous disservice to the bright, well-intentioned young people who join PhD programs.

In most of the world, most humans have to move within the realm of available resources. One could easily say that if a manager of US sees too many PhDs, it is natural to conclude that since there is not enough resources to go around, adding more resource consumers is silly. We can argue all over whether it is a good policy, or whether the allocation makes sense, or whether the resources are really not there, but, how is is this a difficult logic gate?

I made the leap this year. No regrets.

On federal level they are still at about 25% without an option to come into power. It is bad, but it is not hopeless, yet.

Well the Swiss are not in EU either, but both are still in Europe

The should welcome the diversity of crime.

China also has been playing the long game with the build out of it's technology capabilities. I could very easily see them doing the same for medicine. They aren't afraid of losing money on investment for a particularly long period of time. They are currently thinking in decades and not quarters.

We don’t have elections anymore? When did this happen?