Tesla did one good thing: it brought hype to the EV market. Now that many major car manufacturers have caught on, Tesla brings nothing to the table. And with Elon heading it, those who are in the market for EVs wisely do not trust the company. This is just another reason to avoid them.
NoPicklez 5 days ago [-]
Just because there are other brands in the market doesn't mean Tesla brings nothing to the table. Does that mean all ICE brands bring nothing to the table because there are other ICE brands?
Tesla cars are still excellent and it only takes an opportunity to drive both the Tesla and the BYD to see why the Tesla is more expensive.
Don't get me wrong Elon being in the position he is does muddy the brand name, but they're still excellent cars.
There is an accusation of odometer fraud, but this isn't new for any car nor are other fraudulent activities of car brands in general
LarsAlereon 5 days ago [-]
Tesla was the only Western car company serious about making electric cars. Every other company is very clear that they make gas cars, don't want to make electric cars, and will only do so if forced by the government. Consumers only want to buy electric cars, so it's essentially a two horse race between Tesla and Chinese car companies. I'm no fan of today's Elon Musk, but I'm also not a fan of surrendering the car market to China.
Consumers do not want to buy electric cars, at least not in the UK. They are far too expensive and the infrastructure doesn't exist. Visit a motorway service station and see 10 chargers in a car park for hundreds of cars. The government is trying to mandate a set percentage of car sales to be electric, but consumers don't want them so the manufacturers are set an impossible target to achieve.
Electric cars also destroy the industry in repairs (exhausts etc.) which may or may not be a good thing, but the repercussions in terms of jobs/industry is quite large. I myself have a 53 year old VW Beetle that I can drive compared to the old Android phone in the drawer that is useless (battery life/software updates) despite being far younger.
dzhiurgis 5 days ago [-]
So there is so much demand that chargers can't keep up but you say people don't want to buy? Okay...
72deluxe 5 days ago [-]
No, I am saying that the current amount of chargers in locations (10) is likely sufficient for the existing "demand", but woefully inadequate if the artificial demand being constructed by forced quotas was actually met (ie, if all the hundreds of existing petrol cars switched to electric).
If all petrol stations suddenly only had 1 pump, we'd say that the infrastructure was inadequate, not that the overburdened 1 pump indicated a great demand for petrol cars.
dzhiurgis 4 days ago [-]
Geez, wonder if we can ever build more chargers.
dzhiurgis 5 days ago [-]
Caught on? LOL.
hulitu 5 days ago [-]
> Tesla accused of hacking odometers to weasel out of warranty repairs
Mean people being jealous about OTA software updates. /s
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Tesla cars are still excellent and it only takes an opportunity to drive both the Tesla and the BYD to see why the Tesla is more expensive.
Don't get me wrong Elon being in the position he is does muddy the brand name, but they're still excellent cars.
There is an accusation of odometer fraud, but this isn't new for any car nor are other fraudulent activities of car brands in general
Electric cars also destroy the industry in repairs (exhausts etc.) which may or may not be a good thing, but the repercussions in terms of jobs/industry is quite large. I myself have a 53 year old VW Beetle that I can drive compared to the old Android phone in the drawer that is useless (battery life/software updates) despite being far younger.
If all petrol stations suddenly only had 1 pump, we'd say that the infrastructure was inadequate, not that the overburdened 1 pump indicated a great demand for petrol cars.
Mean people being jealous about OTA software updates. /s